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[Dean]

I was wondering if anyone else was having Xinha problems in the sense that it causes the server to reboot, just like it has had a mini DOS attack?

I keep getting them!

Edited by Dean, 10 March 2006 - 08:57 AM.

[Dean]

Opened Xinha ticket:
http://xinha.python-hosting.com/ticket/680#preview

[Dean]

Hi ralph, just to let you know, with the latest file, it's still doing it (this server just rebooted)

[omercade]

Hi ralph, just to let you know, with the latest file, it's still doing it (this server just rebooted)

it reboots in a windows server, a unix server or both?
when does it reboots?

thx!!!

[Dean]

*nix - it may be pushing the server over the edge, although i have to admit that there isnt a great deal on this server....

Sometimes it's whilst the editor is loading that it does it....

[Dean]

Has anyone managed to integrate HTMLArea with Eto? I mean the v3 available?? As i am really unable to use xinha now - it's royally getting on my nerves.

[omercade]

Has anyone managed to integrate HTMLArea with Eto? I mean the v3 available?? As i am really unable to use xinha now - it's royally getting on my nerves.

when does xinha makes restart your sistem? i have redhad and mine doesnt restart for the moment.

[Dean]

It's when it's loading - i seem to be the only one having this issue

[Jelmer]

Which makes me assume that it must be server-related...

[omercade]

Which makes me assume that it must be server-related...

Well, server related, but xinha related too...
lets see if xinha's tikets are usefull

Its hard to have a server reboot for a piece of php code...
do you have proper restrictions on php user? safe mode on?

I would also open a tiket to your server host.

Hope it fixes soon!

[Dean]

It's my dedicated box - they are reinstalling the OS later, so I will see if it still happens after - if it doesnt reboot then something must have gone scew-wiff

I'll keep you informed....



Edit: And oh, by the way - Xinha and FCK now refuse to load

[Dean]

Ok, well the second server (which has been newly reformatted & cPanel installed) is doing the exact same.... I think it's time to ditch Xinha and return to it's parent, HTMLArea.

Now you cant say that it's pushing the server over the edge by having too many sites on - it only has the downloads file and the one i have been now working on....

Two different hardware specs, two different O/S, two different datacentres, two different companies, both doing the exact same thing - causing the server to reboot when trying to load xinha.

The only thing in common is cPanel - although I have recompiled apache with different PHP versions, and it is still doing it.


As for the response to the Xinha Ticket, I don't chuffing know why I bothered.

So I left this...

I don't know if it's the same thing, but I was reading else where that another script that does this was causing it because it was creating a mini-DOS attack due to an incorrectly coded JS file, that was causing it to constantly go looking for a file, and then cause the server to reboot.

[Dean]

Finally, getting somewhere - and I have decided that I ditch Xinha and switch to HTMLArea - and I personally advise others too aswell...

I have updated my ticket over at Xinha, and the link is at the bottom ... the script is performing a SYN Flood.. and causes my hardware firewall to drop my connection here, so the server isn't going down, but I am being blocked from connecting to it.

How I found out? Well I thought I would try again - and guess what, I thought my server went down... so I thought I would check out what was on the server's screen.... so my new datacentre has a remote terminal connected to the machine, so that you can use it from anywhere as if you were sat at it... I logged in, and it was still sat at the screen it always is... login.

So I though, hang on, I still can't access it - I rebooted a couple of services, and no I still can't connect to it via HTTP or SSH or anything else.

Then I checked my router's security logs, and it's there! It's actually bloody there!

Xinha was causing a SYN flood, which was causing me to be blocked from connecting to it at my end, and so I though all along my server had gone down.

I disabled the firewall, and I could connect to it fine.

mikef, this is why you also cannot use it with mcafee firewall installed also.

So yeah, my opinion of xinha has just hit the floor - it's rubbish!

http://xinha.python-hosting.com/ticket/680#preview

I vote to scrap it and re-pick up HTMLArea

[Dean]

So, in my opinion a few weeks ago (about it DOS'ing), in a way, I was right - it was me DOS'ing (SYN FLOOD) and causing my firewall to block me... I wasn't that far off the mark... go dean!

[ikonia]

I've got a pretty strong feeling against xhina,

I've found it very fat/slow, lots of bugs, (messed up a lot of links on pages you edit - but don't touch the links) the image creation/displaying plugin is pretty poor and random in how it works, the javascript is pretty buggy and causes mass slow down on pretty good machines (seems to be a certain senario causes cpu to rise) and also has a pretty nice DOS attack built in to take down its own client end user......not the best advert I've seen for an editor.

I fully understand and appriciate why it was chosen to go into eto 6.1 - however perhaps a revisit of the situation is woth while.

I'm willing to put some effort in

[cathode]

I personally love xinha. It's got a great image and file manager that my uneducated clients can easily use, and it works perfectly every time I install it - it always has.

[Nutter]

I've only used it on one site, but it seems to be working well. I prefer it to TinyMCE because of the problems MCE seems to have with trying to correct my sample code that I posted - "<a href" becomes "<a xhref", "<img src" becomes "<img xsrc" - but that's another topic... Only thing is I wish I could tell it to use HTML code rather than XHTML - <br> instead of <br />.

About the poll - isn't Xinha already 'left as an option'? Isn't TinyMCE the default?

On my other Eto site I just leave the editor off and edit all the pages in straight HTML.

[Ralph]

While Xinha does have its strong points, I are several major issues with the projects business model... The biggest issue I have, as Dean has pointed out, is that support is not nearly as prompt or efficient as one would expect from such a supposedly major project... Additionally, it appears as though the project has too many developers poking through the code and nobody is adequately monitoring ongoing changes... And, lastly, at least for my short-list, in the attempt to offer everything but the kitchen sink, the excessive number of plugins has made for unacceptable instability throughout the entire code base...

On a side note, I have been in contact with several AJAX suite providers and I have been corresponding with one of them in particular who has shown great interest in the Etomite project and has been asking my advice regarding WYSIWYG editors... They are looking to fork an existing editor, Xinha, as it is based on HTMLArea... They know the original HTMLArea author, personally, and feel that Xihna will give them the best base from which to build... I have advised them, repeatedly, about how the excessive number of plugins has created problems and have been assured that any product they develop will only include a very limited number of plugins so as to eliminate similar problems... I will share more information as it becomes available... The only thing I can say at the moment is that this editor will be a modular part of an overall AJAX suite that will also work in stand-alone mode...

[cathode]

I've only used it on one site, but it seems to be working well.  I prefer it to TinyMCE because of the problems MCE seems to have with trying to correct my sample code that I posted - "<a href" becomes "<a xhref", "<img src" becomes "<img xsrc" - but that's another topic...  Only thing is I wish I could tell it to use HTML code rather than XHTML - <br> instead of <br />. 

About the poll - isn't Xinha already 'left as an option'?  Isn't TinyMCE the default?

On my other Eto site I just leave the editor off and edit all the pages in straight HTML.

Hey Nutter, my xinha generates xhtml... Not sure why though

[Dean]

it isn't the plugins causing a problem - i can remove them, and still have the SYN floods - its the whole editor which is rubbish.