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[Dean]

Yup, this morning we used up the last of the 20gb bandwidth assigned to etomite.com - I have increased it to 30gb now

[vw53a]

So we can expect some trouble again on the 31st of this month?
Great that so many people come here.

[Dean]

fingers crossed we dont use 10gb in 10 days lol

[vw53a]

well, if we did 20 in 20 why not 10 in 10?

[Ralph]

All the more reason for members to NOT post code within forum posts as text... All code should be posted as attachments only as otherwise it has to be rendered and sent with every page request... This is also a good reason to use <<< SNIP >>> as often as possible...

[Jeroen]

Do you realy think that would help a lott?
I think having the 'problem area' inside the post is much more inviting to give it a quick look and see if you can help.

If you want to sqeeze out every byte... then just loose the stuff that nobody cares about...
- like the skin and language selector on the bottom of every singe page (people should set those things in their forum settings)
- or like the Member No. and Group info that comes along with every post. You allready have registration date and a tag that shows admin or doc-team and stuff like that.

If you say that every character is 4 bytes, that would make a difference on a monthly basis.

[Jeroen]

I just tested this with the page source of this very page.
size 76769 bytes

without the pulldown and the two things in every post: 75103

So I just saved you 1666 bytes and I lost the RSS image of 1024 bytes
So 1,5kB saved for allmost every page.

BUT I was most shocked of the HUGE amount of CSS inside the header. That should be in a linked file which can be caged by my browser. That will realy cut your bandwith in half!!

source file without the whole CSS stuff: 43518 bytes
that will save you 31585 bytes!!!!!!!!!!!

How in earth is it possible that I would find such an easy win?

[Dean]

Tell me about it - but its not something we can fix - it's IPB for you....
Change it, and you can guarantee things will break lol

[Ralph]

Granted, getting the CSS into cache, or shrinking it to an extent, would help... But, as I mentioned in my post, and to elaborate, scrolling down through a page of a forum thread which has almost a dozen long code listings just doesn't make any sense at all to me... If I want to peruse the code I can always click on an attachment and give it a look-see... Remember, some of us read each and every post which means that we have to view a large portion of a thread over and over again thus adding to the bandwidth usage... I guess we could just make a single visit per day to the forums but that wouldn't reflect well on our claim to be above other projects when it comes to support now would it...??? I'm here almost all day every day so I think my opinion on the matter holds a lot of merit... Blame it on me...

[Dean]

^^ it's all Ralph's Fault

[Jeroen]

Tell me about it - but its not something we can fix - it's IPB for you....
Change it, and you can guarantee things will break lol

Well that's silly. Don't have anybody on their designteam that knows what a modem is?
I can't imagine that someone delivers a product that is not cheap to begin with and costs you a lott of (unnescessary) money to operate. Only Ferrari and Lambourgini should get away with that.

[Dean]

Please, feel free to join the queue of people that complain to IPB about their coding and process practices - it's all stored in the database, and it pulls the stuff when needed - luckily, it does run a caching system, so most of the skin is actually cached ;-)

[lloyd_borrett]

G'day,

I'm in Sydney, surfing on my PDA via someones unprotected wireless network, so i can't check some things well right now.

But do you have compression turned on for ALL areas of the web site?

Could have been easily overlooked in some of the recent moves and changes.

Best regards, Lloyd Borrett.

[Dean]

Well, we have almost used the 30gb for the main site... the docs site has already used all of it's bandwidth.

If it goes off, it'll be back on in the morning, as it's the 1st of the Month

[DeniseDD]

It's also amazing how bloated the search results get. But luckily, that's IPB's (invision pure bloat) problem.

[PaulD]

"I'm in Sydney, surfing on my PDA via someones unprotected wireless network,"

Lloyd, I have images of you lurking around peoples homes to get some free surf time!

Generally though, I think this is a great forum. Other forums I use are nowhere near as good, and in win98 and with ie5 (very old laptop) it still works - just about. Other lesser forums don't.

[Dean]

Interesting Stats till midnight last night:


Unique visitors: 27009
Number of visits: 43577
Pages: 303468
Hits: 1444605

Bandwidth used this month so far: 15.79 Gig

[lloyd_borrett]

G'day Paul,

I wasn't lurking or sniffing around the streets of Sydney. I happened to be staying with someone that only had 56K dial-up, and no internal LAN or wireless LAN to share it.

When I turned on my PDA it found someone nearby had an unprotected broadband wireless LAN setup. So I was back on the net.

But even then it was painful using it. Few web sites support handhelds well. Thus it is painful using most web sites from a PDA. etomite.com was no exception. And my own web mail setup is very ordinary.

Not that I'm about to volunteer to create the CSS files for a handheld version of etomite.com and Etomite Manager anytime soon.

Best Regards, Lloyd Borrett.

[Ralph]

<<< SNIP >>>
When I turned on my PDA it found someone nearby had an unprotected broadband wireless LAN setup. So I was back on the net.

But even then it was painful using it. Few web sites support handhelds well. Thus it is painful using most web sites from a PDA. etomite.com was no exception. And my own web mail setup is very ordinary.
<<< SNIP >>>
Best Regards, Lloyd Borrett.

You will be seeing more and more disparity in this regard as time progresses... Everyone wants to scramble out to get all of the neat new gadgets but they fail to realize that many developers, me included, have no plans of supporting tiny-screen technology... I won't waste one minute trying to assure that sites that I develop render properly on someones cell phone... I'm not in agreement with much of the technology overload that is being dumped into the mainstream for no other reason than to garner just a wee bit more market share... I don't even own a cell phone or PDA and have no real reason to rush out and buy one... In fact, I just saw a segment on the national news last night about how people are getting addicted to Blackberrys and other PDA's... And we all know that our children are addicted to cell phones... Ah, but I digress...