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[haves]

Hello,

currently the InsertImage-Dialog is very small. Im only able to see 4 to 5 elements at the same time.
So I searched on the Xinha an found the ExtendedFileManager-Plugin.

http://xinha.raimundmeyer.de/x_examples/ext_example.html
You can test it like that:
At the first test you add Only the ImageManager Plugin. After the reload you can klick on the addImage Button. Resize now the Dialog the Frame who contains the files will not resize.
Now add the ExtendedFileManager Plugin, too. After this reload klick on the addImage Button and Resize the Dialog again. Now the Frame will resize :-)

I copied the Plugin from the Current Xinha into the Etomite Xinha 'Plugin folder. But now, Xinha will not load. It will only load if I remove the Plugin from my Plugin folder :-(

I'm very interested in that Plugin. Hope someone can help me to integrate it.

haves

[cathode]

The Xinha that works with Etomite is a modified, older version and won't work with some plugins.

[haves]

I had seen that in other posts, too. :-(
Ok the current version is older than 1 1/2 year. Do you know about an integration of a newer version currently?
Is there a developers document where the xinha changes wich was made documented?

Thanks for help.

haves

[Ralph]

haves, on Jul 11 2007, 02:18 AM, said:

I had seen that in other posts, too. :-(
Ok the current version is older than 1 1/2 year. Do you know about an integration of a newer version currently?
Is there a developers document where the xinha changes wich was made documented?

Thanks for help.

haves

Xinha, as well as the other WYSIWYG editors, was voluntarily integrated into Etomite... These integrations require free time on the part of those willing to attempt said integrations... Not only must the editor be integrated, but many of the plug-ins also require integration as well... Some plug-ins can play well together while others can't... If you'd like to take the time to integrate the extended image manager into Etomite and contribute the integration code, feel free to do so... Making the standard image manager work has taken much trial and error to get as stable as it is today - no easy task... I have the newest release of Xinha integrated and almost ready for release to the Etomite community but I took one look into the extended image manager and realized that I don't have the time, nor desire, to tackle that task at this time... And considering that, for all intents and purposes, the current Etomite code base is in maintenance only mode, don't expect the core developers to jump right in and hand out a patch as we are trying to work on the all new code base...

[haves]

hi,

yeah, i would take the time to integrate the extended image manager into Etomite and contribute the integration code. But currently my know how about etomites and xinhas deeps is not enough to do that. But I'm getting more and more into it. Ok i will wait for your integrated xinha an then i will start to integrate the ExtendedFileManager-Plugin and provide the code after that. Do you know about the time you will release your new xinha?

Thanks for answer.
haves

Edited by haves, 12 July 2007 - 06:36 AM.

[Ralph]

haves, on Jul 12 2007, 02:35 AM, said:

<<< SNIP >>>
Do you know about the time you will release your new xinha?

Thanks for answer.
haves

If I was to say soon I might get myself into trouble... Rest assured that it will be in the not too distant future...

[Connie]

Ralph, on Jul 12 2007, 02:27 PM, said:

If I was to say soon I might get myself into trouble... Rest assured that it will be in the not too distant future...

I am evaluating Etomite whether I can use it for some bigger projects, relaunching very big websites
and integrating images is a basic feature
but I find no satisfying solution to integrate images in any of the editors

FCKeditor does not see the images which are in the correct folder, which have been uploaded by the file manager etc.

I find this a lot of intransparency here and I am not happy about these preaches "we do it voluntarily and we have no time" - "it is in maintenance"

Shall I continue to test with Etomite or do I spoil my time????
Do you have any interest in the project anymore or is Etomite dead?

I must know that because I invest a lot of time which I will not get paid by my clients and I risk to loose any time-limits...
so I would be glad to get some answers , thanks in advance

Connie

[Dean]

Posts like that really annoy me. I'll take the bait anyway.

Shall I continue to test with Etomite or do I spoil my time???? Don't waste your time complaining here.
Do you have any interest in the project anymore or is Etomite dead? Etomite is far from dead.

I must know that because I invest a lot of time which I will not get paid by my clients and I risk to loose any time-limits...
so I would be glad to get some answers , thanks in advance
Invest some of that said cash into the project and things could be done for you (contact Ralph).

I am not happy about these preaches "we do it voluntarily and we have no time" - "it is in maintenance"
Well go elsewhere and complain that the free product being provided isn't doing exactly what you need to do.

[Ralph]

Connie, on Dec 11 2007, 10:17 AM, said:

I am evaluating Etomite whether I can use it for some bigger projects, relaunching very big websites
and integrating images is a basic feature
but I find no satisfying solution to integrate images in any of the editors

FCKeditor does not see the images which are in the correct folder, which have been uploaded by the file manager etc.

I find this a lot of intransparency here and I am not happy about these preaches "we do it voluntarily and we have no time" - "it is in maintenance"

Shall I continue to test with Etomite or do I spoil my time????
Do you have any interest in the project anymore or is Etomite dead?

I must know that because I invest a lot of time which I will not get paid by my clients and I risk to loose any time-limits...
so I would be glad to get some answers , thanks in advance

Connie

Well, Connie, if you don't like what you read here, or aren't patient, or aren't willing to contribute your time into the project, you are free to look elsewhere... I'd love to be able to spend more time working on the Etomite code base but I have bills to pay just like everyone else and what donations we have been receiving have been used to provide the membership with this support website... In fact, some of the modifications that get put into Etomite are paid for by developers who truly believe in the product and without that funding we may not have seen some of the modifications that have been added in recent releases...

In an effort to perhaps help you in your decision I'll let you know now that the next bugfix release, 0.6.1.5, will mark a further slowdown in development of the current code base so that efforts can be put towards writing a whole new release that should have been completed long ago... Etomite isn't "dead", but the current code base is pretty much "parked" aside from bug fixes... A visit to the PayPal button on this site, in absence of any other worthwhile contribution, would be greatly appreciated... At least then we will be able to continue to provide you with a means to voice your displeasure regarding our voluntary efforts...

NUFF SAID...

<<< scurries back into the dark recesses to practice jumping through hoops on command >>>

[Dean]

Ralph, on Dec 11 2007, 03:43 PM, said:

<<< scurries back into the dark recesses to practice jumping through hoops on command >>>

You mean you haven't perfected yet Ralph??? Come on, I thought I'd taught you well!!!

[cathode]

Connie,

Let me attest to the fact that Etomite is the best at what you are describing - when set up right. I have been using it for a few years to do exactly what you are saying. I use Xinha as the editor, with it's image manager and file manager - it's the only acceptable solution, in my opinion. Forget the other editors. I have had no trouble passing websites off to old ladies and secretary types with Xinha and it's image and file managers. You don't need ExtendedFileManager.

As for Etomite:
It's an alive, active project. The admins here are quick to respond, and help is always close at hand. If you need something custom, Ralph and others are always available to to programming on a per-project basis (for money).

The current Etomite code base is "parked" now because it is virtually bug-free. It simply works, and works very well.

Edited by cathode, 11 December 2007 - 03:49 PM.

[Connie]

I am not just asking and taking, I am in the net for nearly 15 years now and I am/was a member of a number of teams, whether support or developing. I have given a lot of time and devotion already. Let me estimate some thousands of hours already... Etomite is not the only open source project around, Ralph!

I am willing to publish the snippets which I wrote already here later, but first I must find out if I can use this system or if I spoil my time with it... 

Cathode, your answer was the only one which could help me out.


So you say that Xinha might be the editor.

I see that in my installation XINHA can be selected in the configuration, but when I activate it I get a blank editor window. Nothing else. I will check it again.. I am sure I will get it to work

I tested FCKedit, I even had to edit the javascript-files to get the upload-dialogue in a usable window size which offers the upload-button, but this editor did not find the image-folder.. even when I edited the configuration paths...

these are the reasons why I am disappointed...

so my questions for Xinha:

when I use the filemanager to upload jpgs to the assets/images-folder, will Xinha see these images and integrate them? 

Or must I upload the files one by one in Xinha to be able to use them? 

Thanks in advance, Cathode

Connie

[Dean]

Xinha should be able to see the files you upload in the Etomite file manager.

[cathode]

Like Dean says, Xinha sees and makes thumbnails of any images you FTP into the folder.

You're getting a blank window when editing a document due to these possibilities:

1) a xinha plugin conflict
2) a browser issue

I recommend turning off all xinha plugins to start, then turning on the ones you need one at a time. Also, don't use safari. If you use FF, try IE 7 - if you use IE, try FF.

[cathode]

The Xinha that works with Etomite is a modified, older version and won't work with some plugins.

I use these Xinha plugins successfully together in all of my sites:
CharacterMap
HTMLEntities
PasteText
TableOperations
UnFormat

[Ralph]

Dean, on Dec 11 2007, 10:46 AM, said:

You mean you haven't perfected yet Ralph??? Come on, I thought I'd taught you well!!!

Dean, you can't teach an old do new tricks... I would have replied sooner but this 300 baud modem connected to my Tandy Color Computer running at 2Mhz using Teletext is having a hard time keeping up... This ARPANET is pretty cool...!!! Hey, did I miss something...??? Al, are you out there...??? Did you get my notes about renaming this to "internet" and about our conversation regarding global warming at the Duran Duran concert...??? Is this thing turned on...???

[Dean]

damn! that's where im going wrong.

maybe i had too much alcyhol tonight... that 13% bottle of wine gone to my head

[cathode]

Dean, on Dec 11 2007, 02:15 PM, said:

damn! that's where im going wrong.

maybe i had too much alcyhol tonight... that 13% bottle of wine gone to my head

OK, OK, back on topic, gentlemen

[Dean]

Ummm.. yeah! Nothing like lightening the conversation mood

Anyway.. where were we?